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| ID: | 201269 |
| Date: | 2009-04-07 20:57:00 |
| Origin: | 09SANTIAGO331 |
| Source: | Embassy Santiago |
| Classification: | SECRET |
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S E C R E T SANTIAGO 000331 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/07/2019 TAGS: OVIP (BIDEN, JOSEPH), PREL, ECON, PGOV, SOCI, EU SUBJECT: VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN'S MARCH 28 MEETING WITH PRIME MINISTER JOSE LUIS RODRIGUEZ ZAPATERO Classified By: Ambassador Paul Simons for reasons 1.4 (b/d). 1. (U) March 28, 2009; 9:20 am; Vina del Mar, Chile. 2. (U) Participants: U.S. Joseph Biden, Vice President Antony Blinken, National Security Advisor to the Vice President Brian McKeon, Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President Dan Restrepo, Senior Director, Western Hemisphere Affairs, National Security Council Craig Kelly, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs, U.S. Dept. of State Brian Harris (notetaker), Political/Economic Chief, U.S. Embassy Guatemala City SPAIN Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, Prime Minister Bernadino Leon, Secretary General of the Presidency Nieves Goicoechea, Deputy Secretary of State for Communications Trinidad Jimenez, Deputy Secretary of State for Latin America Maria Solanes, Presidential Counselor for International Affairs 3. (C) Summary: During a bilateral meeting on the margins of the Progressive Governance Leaders Summit in Chile, Vice President Joseph Biden and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero discussed the need for a strengthened relationship and greater collaboration between Europe and the United States. Vice President Biden pledged increased consultation with Europe and called on Spain and other European nations to follow through on commitments with action. He also criticized the lack of consultation prior to Spain's withdrawal from Kosovo and requested Spain consult the United States earlier and in a more transparent fashion in the future. Zapatero defended the decision to withdraw but allowed that Spain could have consulted earlier with the United States. End Summary. --------------------------------------------- ------- Expectations and New U.S. Approach to Foreign Policy --------------------------------------------- ------- 4. (C) PM Zapatero opened the meeting by congratulating Vice President Biden on the election victory and saying it had raised expectations in Spain and throughout Europe for a new relationship with the United States. Vice President Biden thanked Zapatero and added that expectations may be too high, and President Obama knows that high expectations have more to do with the failures of the previous administration than with his new administration. 5. (C) Vice President Biden added that we want to change our foreign policy paradigm. We know that most of our challenges lie beyond the scope of the United States to confront alone and that President Obama genuinely wants engage in dialogue with partners around the world to develop consensus around solutions. We know what the pillars of our policy are, but unless we listen and work with our partners, it will not matter much. 6. (C) Vice President Biden went on to say that Spain and the United States have worked as great partners in Iraq and we need to enhance the cooperation between our two countries. The relationship has not been all positive in recent years but there was no reason why it could not change instantly. 7. (C) Zapatero responded that managing the relationship between the United States and Spain under the Bush administration was easy for him. Whatever position the Bush Administration took, he would take the opposite and see his domestic poll numbers increase. Sarcastically, Zapatero said "for that I will always be grateful to the Bush Administration." Now, however, Spain, and Europe in general, want a change in the relationship with the United States. Europe is a group of countries that the United States can trust. We share the same general outlook and, to a great extent, the same strategic interests. Europe wants to see a United States that shares decision making on global issues and listens to everyone, rather than pushing a single dogmatic view as with the Bush administration. Europe is the world's greatest debating club which--despite numerous cultures, 27 countries, and 20 languages--can still reach consensus. Were Europeans to be a little bolder, they would have a great impact on world affairs. Now Europeans want to contribute to reinvigorated U.S. leadership by helping to contribute the best ideas and principles to help solve global challenges. 8. (C) Vice President Biden said that for eight years the doctrine of "my way or the high way" had been ascendant in American foreign policy and that he had long spoken against this in the Senate. In his recent speeches at the Munich Security Conference and at the North Atlantic Council he had been a consistent proponent of collaboration and consensus building. However, consensus building can have the drawback of leading to the lowest common denominator. Working together, Europe and the United States must reach agreement, then implement plans and enforce the rules of the road. Despite being an ardent Atlanticist, Vice President Biden noted that Europe has been reluctant to act to enforce the rules to which Europeans have ascribed. The Obama administration brings good news and bad news for Europeans. Unlike the Bush administration, the Obama administration will genuinely consult and listen to its European partners. However, once a decision is reached, the Obama administration will be more aggressive in asking Europeans to follow through on its commitments. 9. (C) Vice President Biden said regular Americans in places like Peoria and Albuquerque do not like being a superpower, they want others, such as Europe to help lead. When the idea of a European military force separate from the NATO command structure emerged, many in the Bush administration railed against it. However, Vice President Biden said he had been supportive of the idea and did not view it as a threat. In a light moment, when Zapatero said that the European Defense Force would happen, Vice President Biden extended his hand and said "I bet it won't." Vice President Biden said we view the U.S.-European relationship as an axis of world stability and we need to work together to strengthen it. ------ Kosovo ------ 10. (C) Vice President Biden said that we want to genuinely collaborate with Spain, but changing a relationship was difficult, and required reciprocal changes. For example, when Spain unilaterally withdrew its mission to Kosovo, we would have appreciated advanced warning and collaboration. The decision is a sovereign one for Spain to make and one that the United States respects, but we should discuss it in advance. 11. (C) Zapatero responded that there must have been a misunderstanding. Spain made the decision to withdraw a year ago and could not maintain participation in the mission once Kosovo declared its independence and was recognized by numerous nations. Spain is a fractious country with Basque (ETA) terrorist organization that has killed over 900 Spaniards in an effort to split from Spain. Any hint that the Spanish government would support the dissolution of a country into regional components would be sensitive politically and could embolden separatists. Therefore, Spain could not continue to support a mission to Kosovo. However, Zapatero allowed, Spain could have conducted more comprehensive consultations with the United States ahead of its withdrawal. 12. (U) The Office of the Vice President has cleared this message. SIMONS | |
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